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 Post Posted: Sat, August 21st 2010 10:43pm    Post subject:
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You can't reduce it to a mathematical equation. Vader + Yoda + Han Solo = diluted sacrifice. It makes no sense to look at it like that. Han Solo was always a paper-thin character, he really only had his luck, for him to die for such a noble cause should have been his last hooray. In my opinion, of course. Him surviving detracted from Luke, who undeniably was the main character, succeeding. Good movies, like Pulp Fiction for example, have a lot of characters dying left and right to leave the focus on the main characters. Otherwise, it becomes a joke, like the Phantom Menace. Wouldn't you have felt better if Jar Jar sacrificed himself? :P
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 Post Posted: Sat, August 21st 2010 10:50pm    Post subject:
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No. Jar Jar wasn't the worst part. >_>

I quote the ancient wise man... "Aww, how cute! He's accidentally flying the space ship... I hope he f**king dies!"

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 Post Posted: Sat, August 21st 2010 11:19pm    Post subject:
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If I had my way Qui-Gon Jin would have been a wizened old master and Obi-Wan the treading Jedi defying the Council and pushing Anakin toward the dark-side. Han Solo dying at the end would have ultimately proved he was the normal man and that would have given his character closure. Then again, we're talking about Star Wars and severe wounds can be easily healed by a Bacta Tank.
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 Post Posted: Sat, August 21st 2010 11:40pm    Post subject:
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Unless you're the poor sap wearing body armor. Then everything's a one-hit kill... while the pilot who gets shot in his underwear survives the exact same wound. :roll:
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 Post Posted: Sat, August 21st 2010 11:43pm    Post subject:
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Bringing closure to a character arc doesn't necessarily mean death. And I am not looking at this like a mathematical equation. All I'm saying is the more characters you have die in a film, the less of an impact each consecutive death will have. And really, ROTJ is the light-hearted ending chapter of the trilogy. Death and destruction does not make a happy or satisfying conclusion. Lucas had the right idea with keeping all the main characters alive - or at least, the main heroes we care about.

And really...did you just compare Pulp Fiction to Star Wars? That's apples and oranges. Two different genres. They're not even close to the same type of story-telling we're talking about here.
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 Post Posted: Sat, August 21st 2010 11:53pm    Post subject:
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Ok, then Dusk Till Dawn, same concepts, different environment and same fantasy genre. If you think about ROTJ it definitely ends with a lot of death and destruction, just not a whole lot of death on the Rebel side. Seems to me thats kind of a lop-sided sacrifice.
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 Post Posted: Sun, August 22nd 2010 12:04am    Post subject:
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Then I evened it out! :D
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Ok, then Dusk Till Dawn, same concepts, different environment and same fantasy genre. If you think about ROTJ it definitely ends with a lot of death and destruction, just not a whole lot of death on the Rebel side. Seems to me thats kind of a lop-sided sacrifice.


That's because they're the bad guys. :lol:
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Hmph. Says the people who recruit by fostering incest and lying about people's fathers! :p
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 Post Posted: Thu, August 26th 2010 09:20pm    Post subject:
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Moff, I'm reasonably sure you're not a woman. :P


What if it had been his woman characters who were lamenting? :P

Le Beauf is too young for Shayera and Riene would likely end up killing him. Maybe Kendra would lament. >_>
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 Post Posted: Thu, August 26th 2010 09:29pm    Post subject:
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Shayera Jendob wrote:
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Moff, I'm reasonably sure you're not a woman. :P


What if it had been his woman characters who were lamenting? :P

Le Beauf is too young for Shayera and Riene would likely end up killing him. Maybe Kendra would lament. >_>


... :?

I think you just took the off topic thread off topic. :shock:
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 Post Posted: Thu, August 26th 2010 09:35pm    Post subject:
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Never underestimate the power of the Moff side. ;)
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 Post Posted: Fri, August 27th 2010 03:38am    Post subject:
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Happy, happy, happy! :D

We're getting more Wraiths!

Yay! Yay! Yay! :D
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 Post Posted: Fri, August 27th 2010 09:44am    Post subject:
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...Awww. For a moment, I thought you meant Terran. :(
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 Post Posted: Fri, August 27th 2010 11:06am    Post subject:
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I thought he was talking about Covenant weaponry in Reach...
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 Post Posted: Fri, August 27th 2010 11:11am    Post subject:
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...Get the **** out of my division. :(
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 Post Posted: Fri, August 27th 2010 11:43am    Post subject:
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You don't even post in your ****ing division! :P


I like Halo because I enjoy the story.... and I like blowing things up with tanks and aerial vehicles....
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 Post Posted: Fri, August 27th 2010 12:21pm    Post subject:
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Well, fine. I'll stop writing the post I'm working on! :(

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Why do you hate me.......
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For daring to mention that vile, so-called "most anticipated game of 2010" when everyone knows it's StarCraft 2. And then committing a further crime against Holy StarCraft with
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I thought he was talking about Covenant weaponry in Reach...


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 Post Posted: Fri, August 27th 2010 09:13pm    Post subject:
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Wow. I check the tab again and find that I started a discussion... just gonna rewind a bit...
Ams Jendob wrote:
Palpatine is too freaking awesome to die. :p

He was, like, nobody. They only added him (as a Sith and not a politician) so they could have the symbolism of Vader throwing him into the reactor (and thus he really should have stayed dead, even in the EU). Otherwise he could have ended up being a puppet of the moffs or something. It would have been nice if they managed it with Vader rising to power, so that when he turned at Endor it would pretty much end the war.
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Unless you're the poor sap wearing body armor. Then everything's a one-hit kill... while the pilot who gets shot in his underwear survives the exact same wound.
heheh, maybe that's where chainmail bikinis come from - making the costume less useful so that it doesn't interfere with the wearer's http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ConservationOfNinjutsu?from=Main.ConservationOfNinjitsu ninjutsu... o_0
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Otherwise he could have ended up being a puppet of the moffs or something.

...I think you're following the strings the wrong way.
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 Post Posted: Sat, August 28th 2010 11:25am    Post subject:
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Or, in our case, poorly paid mercenaries distracted by planetary militia and Bloodreavers make excellent cannon fodder for the-devil-doesn't-care gray Jedi. :P
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Eh? :P

That comment kind of came out of nowhere...
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Kyle Fenris wrote:
Eh? :P

That comment kind of came out of nowhere...


Sayede wrote:
heheh, maybe that's where chainmail bikinis come from - making the costume less useful so that it doesn't interfere with the wearer's http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ConservationOfNinjutsu?from=Main.ConservationOfNinjitsu ninjutsu... o_0

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